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		<title>By: Senneth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Senneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Cynthia.  And the comments were all insightful.  Yes we do need to speak up against sexism when it happens - over and over again.  Sometimes it feels like I&#039;m in a swamp and have a hard time slogging through it.  My family constantly makes nasty comments about Sarah.  When I call them on it, although I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m probably not as nice as you, they just stare at me like I&#039;m an idiot.  Well, perhaps I am for trying to raise their consciousness.  

What is happening to Carrie Prejean has offended me as well.  I didn&#039;t think her comments were at all offensive.  She is entitled to her own opinion.  And to get eviscerated for it.  This last election season has been a real nightmare.  Hillary, Sarah, and the beat goes on and on...

Thanks, Cynthia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Cynthia.  And the comments were all insightful.  Yes we do need to speak up against sexism when it happens &#8211; over and over again.  Sometimes it feels like I&#8217;m in a swamp and have a hard time slogging through it.  My family constantly makes nasty comments about Sarah.  When I call them on it, although I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m probably not as nice as you, they just stare at me like I&#8217;m an idiot.  Well, perhaps I am for trying to raise their consciousness.  </p>
<p>What is happening to Carrie Prejean has offended me as well.  I didn&#8217;t think her comments were at all offensive.  She is entitled to her own opinion.  And to get eviscerated for it.  This last election season has been a real nightmare.  Hillary, Sarah, and the beat goes on and on&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks, Cynthia.</p>
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		<title>By: jenniferintexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenniferintexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>janis,

you are a better writer than 99% of the so called feminist authors writing about real issues out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>janis,</p>
<p>you are a better writer than 99% of the so called feminist authors writing about real issues out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrie Prejean&#039;s whole ordeal infuriates me.  She said almost exactly the same thing that Barky (and every other male politician) said, and he was greeted as the goddamned second coming for it.  Seriously -- she said something like &quot;I think it&#039;s great that in the US you can choose one way or the other, but I was raised to think it&#039;s man and woman.&quot;  Barky wasn&#039;t even that generous; all he said was, &quot;I was raised to think it should be man and woman.&quot;  Prejean&#039;s comment was MORE LIBERAL THAN HIS!

Prejean was WAY more generous than what Barky said about gay marriage while campaigning, and she probably thought it was a completely innocuous, correctly worded answer.  It would have been had she had a schlong.

And the whole world shit on her for it, and so her position hardened in self-defense.

It&#039;s all completely disgusting.  There&#039;s no WAY that what happened to her would have been half as vicious if she hadn&#039;t been a woman, and a pretty one to boot -- because if television is any indicator, there&#039;s nothing the world likes more than seeing some hot bitch get what&#039;s coming.  (If you think men &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt; attractive women, you must live on a planet that isn&#039;t this one.)

*steam comes out my ears*

Sorry, I need to go get dinner and get away from this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie Prejean&#8217;s whole ordeal infuriates me.  She said almost exactly the same thing that Barky (and every other male politician) said, and he was greeted as the goddamned second coming for it.  Seriously &#8212; she said something like &#8220;I think it&#8217;s great that in the US you can choose one way or the other, but I was raised to think it&#8217;s man and woman.&#8221;  Barky wasn&#8217;t even that generous; all he said was, &#8220;I was raised to think it should be man and woman.&#8221;  Prejean&#8217;s comment was MORE LIBERAL THAN HIS!</p>
<p>Prejean was WAY more generous than what Barky said about gay marriage while campaigning, and she probably thought it was a completely innocuous, correctly worded answer.  It would have been had she had a schlong.</p>
<p>And the whole world shit on her for it, and so her position hardened in self-defense.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all completely disgusting.  There&#8217;s no WAY that what happened to her would have been half as vicious if she hadn&#8217;t been a woman, and a pretty one to boot &#8212; because if television is any indicator, there&#8217;s nothing the world likes more than seeing some hot bitch get what&#8217;s coming.  (If you think men <i>like</i> attractive women, you must live on a planet that isn&#8217;t this one.)</p>
<p>*steam comes out my ears*</p>
<p>Sorry, I need to go get dinner and get away from this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer, we&#039;re definitely on the same page.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer, we&#8217;re definitely on the same page.  <img src='http://thenewagenda.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: yttik</title>
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		<dc:creator>yttik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes, good post! I try to speak up for women, even women I don&#039;t agree with. From Britney Spears to Anne Coulter. I don&#039;t care what people think of them, every human being has a right to be treated with some basic dignity. 

Currently my pet peeve is Carrie Perjean. True, she said some things that offended people. For that she lost her crown, she&#039;s been drug thru court, she&#039;s been sued. Now we&#039;re using her breast surgery and a sex tape to farther humiliate and shame her. You know, we don&#039;t even do that to convicted pedophiles. Seriously, a serial rapist is given more respect. You could murder people in this country and we would never sexually mock and ridicule you. We have laws against cruel and unusual punishment. We don&#039;t shame and humiliate our worst criminals, but we have no problem doing it to women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, good post! I try to speak up for women, even women I don&#8217;t agree with. From Britney Spears to Anne Coulter. I don&#8217;t care what people think of them, every human being has a right to be treated with some basic dignity. </p>
<p>Currently my pet peeve is Carrie Perjean. True, she said some things that offended people. For that she lost her crown, she&#8217;s been drug thru court, she&#8217;s been sued. Now we&#8217;re using her breast surgery and a sex tape to farther humiliate and shame her. You know, we don&#8217;t even do that to convicted pedophiles. Seriously, a serial rapist is given more respect. You could murder people in this country and we would never sexually mock and ridicule you. We have laws against cruel and unusual punishment. We don&#8217;t shame and humiliate our worst criminals, but we have no problem doing it to women.</p>
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		<title>By: jenniferintexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenniferintexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janis,

On that I 100% agree with you and if I missed that point I apologize.  ABSOLUTELY Nancy Pelosi should stand on her actions alone and no comment regarding her looks, her womanhood, etc., etc., is acceptable on any level.  

I can stand with her and defend her against sexism while holding her responsible for her horrible behavior all day long.  And I will.  I will defend her against sexism as loudly as I chastise her and I agree that the former is more important.  for many reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janis,</p>
<p>On that I 100% agree with you and if I missed that point I apologize.  ABSOLUTELY Nancy Pelosi should stand on her actions alone and no comment regarding her looks, her womanhood, etc., etc., is acceptable on any level.  </p>
<p>I can stand with her and defend her against sexism while holding her responsible for her horrible behavior all day long.  And I will.  I will defend her against sexism as loudly as I chastise her and I agree that the former is more important.  for many reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer, you can trash her policies, but you just can&#039;t stand by to let others trash her sexually.  You can&#039;t.  All it will teach men is that there are some women for whom sexual humiliation is okay.  Then, if they want to have some fun on a bitch, they can just convince you she asked for it.

It&#039;s like saying that you need to know who the rape victim is before you can say whether the rape was wrong.  &lt;b&gt;You need to take MORE pleasure in slapping down sexism than you find in watching a deserving bitch get hers.&lt;/b&gt;  That&#039;s what it amounts to, or else sexism stays around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer, you can trash her policies, but you just can&#8217;t stand by to let others trash her sexually.  You can&#8217;t.  All it will teach men is that there are some women for whom sexual humiliation is okay.  Then, if they want to have some fun on a bitch, they can just convince you she asked for it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like saying that you need to know who the rape victim is before you can say whether the rape was wrong.  <b>You need to take MORE pleasure in slapping down sexism than you find in watching a deserving bitch get hers.</b>  That&#8217;s what it amounts to, or else sexism stays around.</p>
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		<title>By: jenniferintexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenniferintexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samanthasmom,

Like Obama, winning by cheating or winning by lying or winning by backstabbing is not a win it is a steal and as such it does not deserve respect or support especially when combined with the fact that Ms. Pelosi  will go down in history as the worst speaker of the worst house in the history of this country (if we even have a history).  Nancy Pelosi made promises and then BROKE THEM and made sure that Hillary Rodham Clinton would have her win stolen from her and us.  To support her in the name of feminism or anything is just wrong.  

For feminism to mean something and affect change such that the power paradigm is shifted, even slightly, must mean that women take the high road.  If I wanted a man to do  her job I would have supported a man.  Little did I know that her gender is just a slight of hand, she is just the same old politician except worse.  way worse.  because she is one of us.

You can win, do the right thing, and walk tall.  Hillary did it.  And don&#039;t you suckers ever forget it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samanthasmom,</p>
<p>Like Obama, winning by cheating or winning by lying or winning by backstabbing is not a win it is a steal and as such it does not deserve respect or support especially when combined with the fact that Ms. Pelosi  will go down in history as the worst speaker of the worst house in the history of this country (if we even have a history).  Nancy Pelosi made promises and then BROKE THEM and made sure that Hillary Rodham Clinton would have her win stolen from her and us.  To support her in the name of feminism or anything is just wrong.  </p>
<p>For feminism to mean something and affect change such that the power paradigm is shifted, even slightly, must mean that women take the high road.  If I wanted a man to do  her job I would have supported a man.  Little did I know that her gender is just a slight of hand, she is just the same old politician except worse.  way worse.  because she is one of us.</p>
<p>You can win, do the right thing, and walk tall.  Hillary did it.  And don&#8217;t you suckers ever forget it.</p>
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		<title>By: Samanthasmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samanthasmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps because I have been one of 25 women in a group of 1700 men, I understand where Nancy is coming from. She fought hard to become Speaker of the House and along the way she gave up her connection to her womanhood to do it. If we had given her more women to work with, she may have not felt the need to do that. Although I am disappointed that she chose that route instead of reaching behind her and pulling more women up with her, I refuse to vilify her. It&#039;s not easy being the first woman to break a glass ceiling, particularly when the ceiling is as high as the one she broke through. We need to make sure that the second woman to become Speaker of the House has enough women around her that she doesn&#039;t think she has to sacrifice her connection to women to do it. Criticize her all you want, but remember that she is a very important &quot;first&quot; and that may have come with a large price tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps because I have been one of 25 women in a group of 1700 men, I understand where Nancy is coming from. She fought hard to become Speaker of the House and along the way she gave up her connection to her womanhood to do it. If we had given her more women to work with, she may have not felt the need to do that. Although I am disappointed that she chose that route instead of reaching behind her and pulling more women up with her, I refuse to vilify her. It&#8217;s not easy being the first woman to break a glass ceiling, particularly when the ceiling is as high as the one she broke through. We need to make sure that the second woman to become Speaker of the House has enough women around her that she doesn&#8217;t think she has to sacrifice her connection to women to do it. Criticize her all you want, but remember that she is a very important &#8220;first&#8221; and that may have come with a large price tag.</p>
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		<title>By: jenniferintexas</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I can&#039;t help it.  I do not think there is ANY comparison between commenting on the issues regarding Sarah Palin versus Nancy Pelosi.  In fact, I think it is sexist not to comment.  Extremely sexist.

Nancy Pelosi is a horrible person.  She is a liar and a cheater.  Furthermore I sincerely believe that she has violated my constitutional rights (as well as those of other Americans) and that she is lacking even a modicum of moral decency such that I cannot think of one single redeeming feature about this woman.  On a hate scale she is up there with the worst of them--men and women so heinous that they force you to hate them.  The fact that she is a woman and a Democrat makes it even worse.  But it does not give her a FREE PASS.  In fact, I hold her in greater contempt.  

I can trash the hell out of Nancy Pelosi, and I should trash the hell out of Nancy Pelosi, because she is a contemptible un-American evil piece of human filth.  It does not make me sexist it makes me honest.  

Sarah Palin has her admirers and her non-admirers, but the treatment she has received since being selected by John McCain as his running mate is nothing less than verbal rape by most of America.  The lies and untruth told about her, the  inordinate scrutiny of every part of her body, the repulsive assault on her family and children, and the failure of most women&#039;s organizations to say boo was sexism.  Rapid, out of control, sexism.  Not talking about this makes me a sexist.  

The only thing in common Sarah and Nancy have is gender, and neither should be able to hide behind it.  Being a feminist and supporting women cannot mean defending Nancy if you defend Sarah; in fact, being a feminist and supporting women MUST mean defending Sarah after eviscerating (of course figuratively) Nancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I can&#8217;t help it.  I do not think there is ANY comparison between commenting on the issues regarding Sarah Palin versus Nancy Pelosi.  In fact, I think it is sexist not to comment.  Extremely sexist.</p>
<p>Nancy Pelosi is a horrible person.  She is a liar and a cheater.  Furthermore I sincerely believe that she has violated my constitutional rights (as well as those of other Americans) and that she is lacking even a modicum of moral decency such that I cannot think of one single redeeming feature about this woman.  On a hate scale she is up there with the worst of them&#8211;men and women so heinous that they force you to hate them.  The fact that she is a woman and a Democrat makes it even worse.  But it does not give her a FREE PASS.  In fact, I hold her in greater contempt.  </p>
<p>I can trash the hell out of Nancy Pelosi, and I should trash the hell out of Nancy Pelosi, because she is a contemptible un-American evil piece of human filth.  It does not make me sexist it makes me honest.  </p>
<p>Sarah Palin has her admirers and her non-admirers, but the treatment she has received since being selected by John McCain as his running mate is nothing less than verbal rape by most of America.  The lies and untruth told about her, the  inordinate scrutiny of every part of her body, the repulsive assault on her family and children, and the failure of most women&#8217;s organizations to say boo was sexism.  Rapid, out of control, sexism.  Not talking about this makes me a sexist.  </p>
<p>The only thing in common Sarah and Nancy have is gender, and neither should be able to hide behind it.  Being a feminist and supporting women cannot mean defending Nancy if you defend Sarah; in fact, being a feminist and supporting women MUST mean defending Sarah after eviscerating (of course figuratively) Nancy.</p>
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