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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Violent Socks

&quot;You made me laugh, Kevin&quot;

I hope that is a good thing :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Violent Socks</p>
<p>&#8220;You made me laugh, Kevin&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope that is a good thing <img src='http://thenewagenda.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Violet Socks, Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Violet Socks, Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am not paid to post here and did not know such jobs existed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The jobs exist -- they&#039;re just not paid!  

You made me laugh, Kevin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am not paid to post here and did not know such jobs existed.</p></blockquote>
<p>The jobs exist &#8212; they&#8217;re just not paid!  </p>
<p>You made me laugh, Kevin.</p>
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		<title>By: KendallJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KendallJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes me sick is that more attention and rebuke is afforded this stupid cartoon, than a women having her head cut off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes me sick is that more attention and rebuke is afforded this stupid cartoon, than a women having her head cut off.</p>
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		<title>By: KendallJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KendallJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adriane,

You are on the money sister! And yes, Violet is right religion and culture have EVERYTHING to do with misogyny!  If Gandy thinks otherwise, she is sticking her head in the sand to appease the Muslims. It&#039;s gutless, and the only way to change the misogyny is to face the truth. Yes sexism is everywhere, but in some places and within some cultures it&#039;s worse. To deny that fact is just plain stupid and a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adriane,</p>
<p>You are on the money sister! And yes, Violet is right religion and culture have EVERYTHING to do with misogyny!  If Gandy thinks otherwise, she is sticking her head in the sand to appease the Muslims. It&#8217;s gutless, and the only way to change the misogyny is to face the truth. Yes sexism is everywhere, but in some places and within some cultures it&#8217;s worse. To deny that fact is just plain stupid and a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GXM17,

Not sure what is telling, that I am an African American male so that I might see racism before sexism. Could be, I accept that possibility - this is a comment I will reflect on and grow from. I did not, however, originally bring up the comparison between racism and sexism.

I am not paid to post here and did not know such jobs existed. I will take this as a honest inquiry that I have answered.

So if I am paid to post here, I am an ignorant race-baiter but if I am not paid to post here, I am not. Okay, I will take that as your way of telling me I am not an ignorant race-baiter. Thank you for the clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GXM17,</p>
<p>Not sure what is telling, that I am an African American male so that I might see racism before sexism. Could be, I accept that possibility &#8211; this is a comment I will reflect on and grow from. I did not, however, originally bring up the comparison between racism and sexism.</p>
<p>I am not paid to post here and did not know such jobs existed. I will take this as a honest inquiry that I have answered.</p>
<p>So if I am paid to post here, I am an ignorant race-baiter but if I am not paid to post here, I am not. Okay, I will take that as your way of telling me I am not an ignorant race-baiter. Thank you for the clarification.</p>
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		<title>By: gxm17</title>
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		<dc:creator>gxm17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, 

It doesn&#039;t surprise me that you&#039;ve got &quot;Racist&quot; at the top of your list. Considering that this is a blog dedicated to women&#039;s issues and the fight against sexism it&#039;s very telling. 

If you are paid to post comments here, then yes, feel free to take offense at my previous comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t surprise me that you&#8217;ve got &#8220;Racist&#8221; at the top of your list. Considering that this is a blog dedicated to women&#8217;s issues and the fight against sexism it&#8217;s very telling. </p>
<p>If you are paid to post comments here, then yes, feel free to take offense at my previous comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Flora (fsteele)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flora (fsteele)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imo the cartoon was neither sexist nor racist, just stupidly muddled. A cartoon chimp suggests Bush, who was often portrayed that way. However Bush had nothing to do with writing the Stimulus sfaik, and the Stimulus apparently was a mixed bag of pork from a lot of people, not written by any one person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imo the cartoon was neither sexist nor racist, just stupidly muddled. A cartoon chimp suggests Bush, who was often portrayed that way. However Bush had nothing to do with writing the Stimulus sfaik, and the Stimulus apparently was a mixed bag of pork from a lot of people, not written by any one person.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GXM17,

I do not know if you are accusing me of being an ignorant race-baiter; I&#039;ll assume you are not. I think the cartoon is all of the below:

1. Racist
2. Insensitive (to the plight of the women who was hurt) and
3. Sexist (as it may also imply the shooting of a women (Pelosi)

I was commenting on the racist aspect of the cartoon but I also agree that it can be viewed as sexist. The point Sheryl makes, that I agree, with is:

&quot;playing the oppression Olympics is a bad idea. Sexism is bad, and astonishingly prevalent. Racism is bad, and astonishingly prevalent. There are social and financial costs for victims of both racism and sexism. We don’t need to find out which one is worse. It’s a moot point, and unanswerable question, and this is not a competition.&quot;

John, I was not and do not plan to defend Al Sharpton, just asking for respect for those of us that view the cartoon as racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GXM17,</p>
<p>I do not know if you are accusing me of being an ignorant race-baiter; I&#8217;ll assume you are not. I think the cartoon is all of the below:</p>
<p>1. Racist<br />
2. Insensitive (to the plight of the women who was hurt) and<br />
3. Sexist (as it may also imply the shooting of a women (Pelosi)</p>
<p>I was commenting on the racist aspect of the cartoon but I also agree that it can be viewed as sexist. The point Sheryl makes, that I agree, with is:</p>
<p>&#8220;playing the oppression Olympics is a bad idea. Sexism is bad, and astonishingly prevalent. Racism is bad, and astonishingly prevalent. There are social and financial costs for victims of both racism and sexism. We don’t need to find out which one is worse. It’s a moot point, and unanswerable question, and this is not a competition.&#8221;</p>
<p>John, I was not and do not plan to defend Al Sharpton, just asking for respect for those of us that view the cartoon as racist.</p>
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		<title>By: gxm17</title>
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		<dc:creator>gxm17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See how the opposition diverts attention from the sexist POTUS by trotting out that stupid cartoon. 

I&#039;m to the point that if people are so ignorant as to not know that congress writes legislation then I don&#039;t give a damn if they&#039;re mistakenly insulted. (The cartoon didn&#039;t need a sign on the monkey because it included dialog that identified the writer(s) of the bill.) The true offensiveness of the cartoon is that the real chimp attack victim was viciously mauled. Her tragedy and pain is not something to make light of. 

As usual the real pain of real women is of no concern to the professional race-baiters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See how the opposition diverts attention from the sexist POTUS by trotting out that stupid cartoon. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m to the point that if people are so ignorant as to not know that congress writes legislation then I don&#8217;t give a damn if they&#8217;re mistakenly insulted. (The cartoon didn&#8217;t need a sign on the monkey because it included dialog that identified the writer(s) of the bill.) The true offensiveness of the cartoon is that the real chimp attack victim was viciously mauled. Her tragedy and pain is not something to make light of. </p>
<p>As usual the real pain of real women is of no concern to the professional race-baiters.</p>
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		<title>By: John Horning</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Horning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

I have friends who have been who have been called whores, or crack whores, or whatever.  On a regular basis, women in this country are beaten, raped and murdered with these acts justified by labeling the victims as whores or crack whores or whatever.   This society dismisses these crimes and does not feel offended at all.  To the extent that they are recognized, they are the subject of cartoons, stand-up comedy or popular songs that express admiration of the perpetrators.  

I have opposed racism and its effects throughout my life, and still do.  At the same time, I place the same value on a woman’s life, any woman’s life, as I do an African American man’s life.   That includes the life of a woman who actually is a “crack whore” on one side and President Barack Obama on the other side.

I have no problem accepting that you find the cartoon offensive.  I do not believe that Al Sharpton did.  I have followed Al’s activates for a long time and I admire his accomplishments.  At this time, and in this case, I believe that Al’s actions serve to sell and reinforce the idea race is a valid issue and the gender is not a valid issue.  I object to that and will continue to object.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>I have friends who have been who have been called whores, or crack whores, or whatever.  On a regular basis, women in this country are beaten, raped and murdered with these acts justified by labeling the victims as whores or crack whores or whatever.   This society dismisses these crimes and does not feel offended at all.  To the extent that they are recognized, they are the subject of cartoons, stand-up comedy or popular songs that express admiration of the perpetrators.  </p>
<p>I have opposed racism and its effects throughout my life, and still do.  At the same time, I place the same value on a woman’s life, any woman’s life, as I do an African American man’s life.   That includes the life of a woman who actually is a “crack whore” on one side and President Barack Obama on the other side.</p>
<p>I have no problem accepting that you find the cartoon offensive.  I do not believe that Al Sharpton did.  I have followed Al’s activates for a long time and I admire his accomplishments.  At this time, and in this case, I believe that Al’s actions serve to sell and reinforce the idea race is a valid issue and the gender is not a valid issue.  I object to that and will continue to object.</p>
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