January 20, 2009 / Uncategorized

Inauguration poll for our readers

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So, did you watch? Did you weep? Did you snort with derision or cheer with joy? Tell us all about it.

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  • Anna

    Option 7: Other

    Didn’t watch. Have heard all the rhetoric before. Given the evidence regarding rampant caucus fraud, it’s hard to feel that this person is actually legitimate as our President. Need to move beyond the Inuaguration and keep my eyes on the prize regarding women’s rights.

  • Sis

    No. This is the only photo I’ve seen, apart from the one I couldn’t miss on the opening page of the Globe and Mail. I’ve seen nothing and read nothing.

    I want to know more about caucus and voter fraud Anna. My American Obama supporters are filling up my e-mail inbox with ‘give the man a chance” and “why so negative” and “if you’d just read his book” and “Hillary and Bill were liars and cheats”. I never said anything about Hillary. Everyone just assumes if you are unhappy about Obama, it’s because you were a Hillary supporter; just dismisses the misogyny. You get silence. The what?

  • Anna

    Sis – Here are two links about caucus fraud. One is Lynette Long’s outstanding research, the other has (or at least had, I think the site is no longer active) a series of video testimony on fraud called “We Will Not Be Silenced.” As for the interchanges you’re describing – ugh – been living with that for more than a year now. It gets old.

    http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/

    http://clintondems.com/

    Meanwhile, slightly off topic, what’s up with this headline about Clinton’s confirmation being delayed:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....firmations

  • NBS

    Geraldine Ferraro was on Fox News today proclaiming enthusiastic and unqualified support for Obama. She was obviously very moved. She said she wasn’t an early supporter, but now felt strongly positive.

    She also said she was very happy her granddaughter had been able to go see the inauguration. I was quite surprised to see this.

  • Kevin

    I never felt more proud in my life. As an African American and a person whose has been called the “N” word to my face on many occassions; and fought for diversity in many corporations, I was proud of our nation.

    Now, with respect to TNA, Obama must be held accountable to the women’s agenda he has established http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/women/

    If TNA can keep Obama honest (and support him – and the women throughout his administration [8,000 jobs]), it will have accomplished a tremendous amount.

  • Zee

    The word I’ve heard time and again from those who watched…it’s all hype and no real excitement. That the excitement apparent when Bill Clinton first came in was noticeably absent.

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  • I did not watch a moment. Hillary Rodham Clinton is the legitimate president. It was stolen from her. God Bless Hillary.

  • TB

    Kevin,

    Your words are very poignant. I think if we put our desire for this nation to do well, men and women, ahead of bitterness and desire
    for revenge, much more good will be accomplished. Hopefully your
    presence here can help encourage that. Obama is our president now,
    and his success or failure will be our success or failure. His agenda
    for women is imprssive. Let’s pressure him to enact it.

  • NBS

    Kevin,

    Very poignant words, Kevin. Hopefully Obama will surprise a lot of people and be a great president for women. If he actually delivers the agenda you linked to, he will be.

  • 3 groups did not like it apparently:

    The NASD -88 (-5.8%)
    The DOW -332 (-4.0%)
    The S&P500 -45 (-5.3%)

  • Anne-Marie

    Zee, I agree that the politics were very dirty, and it’s maddening that it was accepted, but I feel that your response to Kevin is a little rough.

    Kevin wasn’t part of that dirty political process, and I think his pride has to do not with the dirty politics but with seeing someone who looks like him in such a great position of power.

    Obama’s leadership is a great opportunity for this country and for African Americans, you must admit!! It’s the symbolism women wanted b/c it has such power to change the way people think about a whole group of people.

    Anyway, Kevin can speak for himself, but I just wanted to respond because I think we who have really strong feelings should try to direct them towards action that’s positive not towards attacking each other.

    🙁 Attacks make me sad.

  • Anne-Marie

    Obama’s agenda should include providing day care at work and categorizing sex crimes as hate crimes.

  • Anna

    Kevin – I can only imagine the feeling you had today. Thank you for sharing it. As a member of TNA, I regret any post slamming you for sharing what are obviously deeply felt emotions, something we are all entitled to and needn’t defend, explain or be verbally abused for.

  • KayJL

    I’ve had a busy day but have been tuning in when I can. We definitely have work to do in getting the new president take the issue of parity seriously, no question about it. 2008 was a real eye opener, and the way things are isn’t good enough for our daughters.

    But as an independent centrist (who didn’t vote for him–twice–LOL) I’ve been encouraged by other aspects of his transition. Also, we are at war on two fronts and our economy is in distress, so I do support him in those efforts.

    Kevin, congrats on what must be an incredible day for you, and thank you for your support on women’s issues. I can’t pretend to fully comprehend what this presidency means to you, but I saw one of my msm heroes (and I only have four in the entire msm) Juan Williams break down and cry today, which did bring me closer to understanding the impact of what you must be feeling.

    I do also have one other observation about the inauguration, and I want to share just in case Naomi Wolf is reading-in. Naomi, Harry Reid was a rumpled, dishevelled mess today. Please join his re-election campaign immediately.

  • Sis

    You know, there’s a really crooked native politician in Canada. I wouldn’t vote for him. Many, many native people support him. I would not feel proud if he were elected just because he and I share a gene pool.

    I don’t understand Kevin either.

  • Thia, GA

    Didn’t watch a second of it. I just couldn’t get into the masochistic spirit. I read this fantastic book instead…

    http://search.barnesandnoble.c.....1596915596

    I’m not very impressed with Obama’s agenda for women either. Half of the points had nothing to do with women’s issues, very weird.

    I like Cheney so bthbthbthbth! (that was me sticking my tongue out at you and making rude noises) 😀

    Congratulations Kevin, I’m glad you got something good out of today!

  • I do, Sis. I envy Kevin, actually. Congratulations to you, Kevin, and to all the people of this country who understand the importance of this event. It is a game changer. Did I support Obama? No, and I didn’t watch the events of today because it was too painful for me in light of this last horrible year. I can hold all of that in my head and still recognize what this means for African-Americans today; it is how I would have felt if Clinton had won, and also if Palin would have won. The effect that would have had is analogous.

    Of course, I strongly support the 30 (51)% solution, so it wouldn’t matter to me what woman had gotten in, just that a woman had. I’m sure there are more than a few people feeling that way about Obama’s inauguration today–they may not agree with his policies, but they understand the import and the effect that alone will have, regardless of those policies.

    I saw it on the faces of my students tonight. This very diverse group of young adults got it tonight as I directed their attention to Walt Whitman’s poem on the death of Lincoln (When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom’d) and were reminded that it started long before King, with that fratricidal war. I think that’s what the poet Alexander meant when she said so beautifully today:

    Say it plain, that many have died for this day.

    That is what this moment is all about, the whole bloody history, from three fifths person, to the Civil War, to the Civil Rights Movement, to today.

    So I agree with some others, this was a huge moment for our country, bittersweet and painful as it may have been for me personally.

  • KayJL

    Anne Marie, I agree with you. The hanging of Palin in effigy should have qualified as a hate crime. we need to draw public attention to the connection between violence against women and sexism.

  • Kevin

    I appreciate the positive comments. If Obama’s agenda is not the right one (or the full one) http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/women/ – it should be challenged and changed.

    As a diversity advocate, Obama’s Women Agenda impresses me but his actions with respect to women cabinet level posts has not. He failed horribly given the unique opportunity to appoint what I hoped would have been at least 8 to 9 women. Frankly, I am horrified that he didn’t appoint more majority women. This is a failing that TNA should hammer and hammer him on. Hopefully, the commerce secretary will be a majority woman.

    I know many of you have felt the personal sting of sexism – and it feels no worse or better than the sting of racism. I am personally aware of the intense difficulty women face to advance in the corporate arena. For this reason, I am about speaking truth to power and holding Obama accountable to a tangible women’s rights agenda.

  • Thia, GA

    Here is an interesting article addressing the departing President.

    http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/.....ge-w-bush/

    😀

  • TB

    I think the markets were reacting to the terrible news from the banking sector, rather than an inauguration they knew was coming for months.

    But considering the mess they’ve gotten us into, I’d find out whatever
    Wall Street thinks, and run the other direction fast. LOL

  • Sis

    Ok I did a scan of the photos in four major U.S. newspapers. Will someone explain to me why Michelle Obama keeps hunching down.

    Nicole Kidman stands up straight and tall, over every man she’s next to. Why is Michelle Obama trying to make herself look smaller than her husband?

  • KayJL

    thanks, Thia (love Hillbuzz!).

    one thing’s for sure…there’s only one person on the planet who had to hear the news of simultaneous hits to the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, knowing he was the person who had to decide what to do next.

    not only that, but had to maintain a calm demeanor because he was surrounded by children.

  • Thanks for the link, Thia. That was a great read for a couple of reasons, even though I don’t entirely agree with it. First, I love reading stuff written in the royal “we.” Secondly, it’s a well-presented take and my mind is changed on some things, or at least considering them. That’s pretty cool.

    I don’t know what Michelle is hunching down but here’s a theory, based on experience:

    I bet she’s wearing taller heels these days than she’s used to. Fashion consultant probably insists. I wear 1-inch heels often, but mostly flats, so when I wear my 3-inch mary-janes (which I totally love, but don’t wear expect on special occassions) I find myself hunching over because my whole perspective has shifted out of my comfort zone. I’m used to seeing the world at one level, but add a couple of inches and it can be disconcerting. I have to force myself to walk erect when I first put them on so I don’t hunch later. That’s just speculation, though.

  • Whooooole lotta typos. My sincerest apologies. Fatigue setting in. I’m out.

  • On the one hand, we’re rid of Bush!

    I’m keeping my eye on the ball: Bill and HIllary have got a lot of power in that administration. It’s demonstrated by her appointment as SOS and the support she’s getting. Also there’s what’s being called ‘Clinton Restoration’ — quite a few of the people who made the Clinton 90s a success. By supporting these Clintonistas and likely allies for Hillary (especially Summers and Geithner etc) we may get some good things done after all. And if Obama does go down from corruption like Nixon, they will be in position to pick up the pieces.

  • Sis

    Possibly, re the heels. And no intention to cast slurs on Michelle Obama. I think she’s lovely. I hope she has some projects planned to aid women, for example, battered women?

  • Lisa

    The presidency was stolen from Hillary.
    There is no way I could watch that. My husband had to go sit at the bar at Chili’s to watch the inauguration- I wouldn’t let him turn on the TV.

    I can imagine the sense of pride and relief that African Americans feel, and that is some comfort. Kevin it really is wonderful to have you here. Bring your friends.(:

    The whole thing just makes me ill though.

  • Anna

    Anna-Belle

    Your comments are so gracious, thoughtfrul and open-minded. My hat’s off to you.

    Kevin

    Ditto on the above.

    Let’s all keep on moving forward, folks!

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  • nat

    I couldn’t watch it personally, because I too have strong feelings about how Obama “earned” the position. We had a full media ban at our house yesterday.

    That being said, I was teaching one of my classes yesterday (engineering – very few women, very few minorities) and I looked at the two black students in my class and felt for them what an exciting day it must be. How it must change how they feel and how they perceive themselves. I know how I would have felt had it been Hillary or Sarah.

    I felt only sadness for me, but I was able to feel the joy of those students.

  • Anna

    Re: Cheney since he’s listed in the polling choices AND per Thia’s comment AND per issues we’ve discussed re: Rick Warren. Here’s a curious article regarding Cheney and gay rights that I have no way of vetting cause I just don’t know enough about it, but thought I’d post for folks to weigh in. The author doesn’t cite sources and there are a lot of …….’s in between statements, so who knows:

    “Dick Cheney: The Most Pro-Gay Vice President in History”
    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/d.....n-history/

  • Emotionally … I can imagine, if a woman other than Hillary had become President, using the same dirty tricks and backstabbing of Hillary — I could still feel good will toward the supporters who do not know those details but only see a barrier crashed. I don’t want to rain on their parade. I join the gloating about getting rid of Bush. Otherwise I’m keeping quiet and avoiding tv.

    Symbol and narrative-wise, for us who do know more of the real story of the campaign, it’s terrible and I avoid thinking about it.

    As a latte tree-hugger myself, I’m glad to see a victory for that demographic. My vote for Sarah was on character, in spite of policy.

    As for personal caring for Hillary and Bill … they’re probably safer (and more effective) in SOS. The WH ages people terribly; Bill has heart trouble and might burn himself out just watching, even with Hillary actually doing the job. (And I don’t want to see her aged from the flak and nonsense she’d get in the US White House either.) — Of course this factor fits into the bad side of the narrative/symbol: the woman staying back where she’s safe.

    So I’m keeping calm, watching for chances to help Hillary and Sarah (and Maloney or Gillibrand or whoever).

  • Thia, GA

    Anna,
    The article is accurate as I remember the controversy when he was announced as a possible VP. I’ve never heard anything to the contrary. As VP he obviously has to implement the President’s policies etc., but to the best of my memory the only time he publically disagreed with President Bush was on gay rights. If you haven’t read Mary Cheney’s book “Now It’s My Turn” I thought it was fascinating.

  • Anna

    Thia – Thanks for the corroboration. That is so fascinating. Another among what seems like an infinite number of examples of media bias. My eyes opened this year to two forms of it: sexism and partisanship, with the msm leaning heavily and predictably male AND left. As someone who has been very far left leaning myself, I never noticed it until this year. Now there is no going back on any of it. BTW, thanks for the book rec.

  • goesh

    I didn’t watch any of it nor did I when Bush was on stage. I suppose one should watch a bit of history being made but the pomp and ceremony is never remembered. What kind of gown did Laura Bush wear? With a pending economic depression, 2 wars, crumbling infrastructure and an ongoing health care crisis, the attire of participants should get about 3 seconds of air time, but, with all the exposure Michele’s dress got, I’m sure most people the day after felt better about themselves, marriages were probably salvaged, people’s depression lessened, etc etc
    We need a less diversionary Public, less bread and circus time and more critical questions asked, more participation in whatever venues are available for people. Obama is now Commander in Chief so of course I respect him and I hope he can avoid excessive scandal.

  • Maria Heider

    I never blamed the blacks for wanting to vote for Obama. I do however resent the media outcry to “give him a chance”. I voted for the person who had the best credentials. Giving someone a “chance” is playing Russian Roulette with the Presidency. I didn’t watch any of the coverage or listen to the speeches that day. I did however watch later and Obama jumped the gun on the oath when he interrupted Robert’s directive. After that it seemed like Roberts went off stride and contributed to that fiasco. All in all a pretty embarrassing situation for both of them. I went back to see how GWB did in 2001 and he was perfect all the way…no fumbling. I figure if Bush could do it – it should have been a breeze for Obama. But then he didn’t have a teleprompter there to help him. I thought his speech was flowery and lots of smoke and mirrors – nothing of consequence. In my view, he had better do well – he lied and cheated to get the presidency and he better not blow it!! If he does, he can join the reception line in 2012 and ignore Hillary and Bill like Jimmy Carter did (talk about a loser and to think I voted for him (once). The Democratic Party is on a path of further destruction, and it’s all self-inflicted. I don’t have high hopes for Obama, but I do hope the citizens of this country find a way to take back the government from the political leaders in both parties.

  • Anna

    Maria – Great post! Thanks for sharing your thoughts…

  • Kevin

    Maria,

    As one of “the blacks,” but also a HRC supporter, it is interesting how Obama and HRC announced their partnership today on tackling huge global issues, but the blog and discussion does not drift to that issue. I know all others who comment in TNA have a differ view than me but I do not believe the election was “stolen” was HRC and I believe there was enough sexism, racism and ageism flowing throughout the election season that no one is blameless.

    Whether Hillary or Obama won, I support both equally. I would also support the McCain of 2000 because he appeared to be a reasonable moderate. I could not support Palin because her positions regarding civil rights have never been progressive in Alaska.

    So far, Obama gets a B-/C+ from me. I am waiting to see and hear who champions his Women’s Agenda and the level of support the Labor Secretary gets to eliminate the glass ceiling for women in corporate America.