Comments on: The 30 Percent Solution http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/23/the-30-percent-solution/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:50:21 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Cabinet Watch: Will Obama Give Women a Voice? : The New Agenda http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/23/the-30-percent-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-3878 Cabinet Watch: Will Obama Give Women a Voice? : The New Agenda Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:21:19 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=636#comment-3878 [...] “no significant progress is ever made on womens’ issues in any country unless the federal go..., anything less than 30% women in cabinet ought to be cause to find Obama’s government hostile [...] [...] “no significant progress is ever made on womens’ issues in any country unless the federal go…, anything less than 30% women in cabinet ought to be cause to find Obama’s government hostile [...]

]]> By: Anna Belle http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/23/the-30-percent-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-1151 Anna Belle Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:07:33 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=636#comment-1151 Here's a response for your friend, phio: That's easy enough for an overrepresented identity to say . And I'm sorry, but progressive men in Washington are in no way doing everything they can to for women's issues. 22 of those progressives are responsible for 40-something Chief Justice Roberts, Chief Justice! There's plenty more they've chipped away at or bartered away for nothing more than earmarks. They do not care about women's issues because they don't have to DEAL with women's issues. This logic is applicable to a number of so-called identities, including such un-divisive (how I hate to use that word) identities as the middle class. Here’s a response for your friend, phio: That’s easy enough for an overrepresented identity to say . And I’m sorry, but progressive men in Washington are in no way doing everything they can to for women’s issues. 22 of those progressives are responsible for 40-something Chief Justice Roberts, Chief Justice! There’s plenty more they’ve chipped away at or bartered away for nothing more than earmarks. They do not care about women’s issues because they don’t have to DEAL with women’s issues. This logic is applicable to a number of so-called identities, including such un-divisive (how I hate to use that word) identities as the middle class.

]]> By: Sandra Binder http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/23/the-30-percent-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-845 Sandra Binder Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:07:30 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=636#comment-845 I am sooo mad!!! I am not a young gal like most of you... 69 yrs okay! ( I do not like to really say my age...but there you are!!) I saw an article about us older people and bashing us as ill due to not supporting Obama! Sorry, I have been out there for the last 15 years as a poll worker. I was there driving other lady friends to the polls cause the family had only one car and the husband took it to work. We put up signs for Johnson, McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Clinton, Kerry, and Gore! I worked hard at the phones for every election and for Sen Clinton for over a year. I saw her win Ohio...even when others tried to cheat her out of it!!! Now that I am not supporting Oba,a I am called sick with a Frontal Lobe Deases Look at this!!! It makes me sick!! Where is everyone on this mean speech against us women who maybe do not work anymore???? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-elderly-racism_wittsep24,0,5158304.story I am sooo mad!!! I am not a young gal like most of you… 69 yrs okay! ( I do not like to really say my age…but there you are!!) I saw an article about us older people and bashing us as ill due to not supporting Obama! Sorry, I have been out there for the last 15 years as a poll worker. I was there driving other lady friends to the polls cause the family had only one car and the husband took it to work. We put up signs for Johnson, McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Clinton, Kerry, and Gore! I worked hard at the phones for every election and for Sen Clinton for over a year. I saw her win Ohio…even when others tried to cheat her out of it!!! Now that I am not supporting Oba,a I am called sick with a Frontal Lobe Deases

Look at this!!! It makes me sick!! Where is everyone on this mean speech against us women who maybe do not work anymore????

http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....8304.story

]]> By: Amy Siskind http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/23/the-30-percent-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-842 Amy Siskind Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:07:24 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=636#comment-842 First of all - what an assinine comment on his part. Any "progressive" poltician understands full well that women should have representation in the government that reflects their percentage of society. That is the definition of progressive. The 30% story, as well as the UN Study that Dawn wrote about indicate that when women are in office, women's issues get attention and are dealt with. It is a national embarrassment that our country ranked 69th in women for politics. Perhaps your friend should ask himself why he doesn't feel a woman can do just as good a job (if not better) than a male politician? Insecurity? First of all – what an assinine comment on his part.

Any “progressive” poltician understands full well that women should have representation in the government that reflects their percentage of society. That is the definition of progressive. The 30% story, as well as the UN Study that Dawn wrote about indicate that when women are in office, women’s issues get attention and are dealt with. It is a national embarrassment that our country ranked 69th in women for politics.

Perhaps your friend should ask himself why he doesn’t feel a woman can do just as good a job (if not better) than a male politician? Insecurity?

]]> By: phio gistic http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/23/the-30-percent-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-840 phio gistic Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:12:07 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=636#comment-840 I was talking politics with a friend and mentioned this 30% solution, for women's issues but also for general progressive issues. He said "I wish people would just stop playing selfish, divisive identity politics. The progressive men in Congress have a great record and are doing everything that needs to be done for women's issues." I didn't have a good response for him but it felt very demoralizing. I was talking politics with a friend and mentioned this 30% solution, for women’s issues but also for general progressive issues. He said “I wish people would just stop playing selfish, divisive identity politics. The progressive men in Congress have a great record and are doing everything that needs to be done for women’s issues.”
I didn’t have a good response for him but it felt very demoralizing.

]]> By: Doris Warner http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/23/the-30-percent-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-750 Doris Warner Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:10:51 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=636#comment-750 What a wonderful article. It has certainly given me much to think about. I know there are very emotionally fraught opposing views on abortion. I hope that perhaps this is an issue women can agree to disagree for the moment and work on the vast common ground we share. Everything from equal pay to equal opportunities and stronger legislation to protect women from domestic abuse and stalking. In that vein, I urge all women to be careful in the language we use to criticize each other. By all means, feel free to disagree but please treat each other with respect. And just as importantly, demand others use respect when discussing women candidates. Thank you New Agenda for taking the lead. What a wonderful article. It has certainly given me much to think about. I know there are very emotionally fraught opposing views on abortion. I hope that perhaps this is an issue women can agree to disagree for the moment and work on the vast common ground we share. Everything from equal pay to equal opportunities and stronger legislation to protect women from domestic abuse and stalking. In that vein, I urge all women to be careful in the language we use to criticize each other. By all means, feel free to disagree but please treat each other with respect. And just as importantly, demand others use respect when discussing women candidates. Thank you New Agenda for taking the lead.

]]> By: Amy Siskind http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/23/the-30-percent-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-739 Amy Siskind Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:51:21 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=636#comment-739 Lynne, Thank you for writing on our site. To answer your question, we do have on our list of goals (see #4) the notion of child care (Measures must be taken to create better paying jobs and pathways to jobs for women, including job training opportunities, educational opportunities, and child care programs.). We agree with you that this is an important issue. Agree on your other goals too. We can only take so much on at a time but there are many wonderful organizations that are fighting for gay rights and for people of color. Lynne,

Thank you for writing on our site.

To answer your question, we do have on our list of goals (see #4) the notion of child care (Measures must be taken to create better paying jobs and pathways to jobs for women, including job training opportunities, educational opportunities, and child care programs.). We agree with you that this is an important issue.

Agree on your other goals too. We can only take so much on at a time but there are many wonderful organizations that are fighting for gay rights and for people of color.

]]> By: Lynne Beeson http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/23/the-30-percent-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-737 Lynne Beeson Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:45:29 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=636#comment-737 I just found this site and have never done this before, but its time to speak out. I didn't support Hillary although I think she is brilliant, capable and lightyears better than most, but not Obama. I felt from the beginning that he did represent change and\ that welfare reform under the Clinton's was just one example of how a more DLC leaning party would affect lower income women. I feel the Arkansas connections, Tyson, Walmart, (Hillary was on the Board) and many other factors made me leary of her. I was a Kucinich fan mostly, but thought he could never win. I wanted to break up the Wall Street, corporate democrats. As for the women in leadership, they failed to stop the war, or speak against it or ask questions. I am in Nancy Pelosi's district and feel let down by both Dianne and Nancy. It may be harder for them as women, but they haven't proven to me that they were any different than the men in power. Sorry. Can transexuals quality as women and therby be assured female support? What do we stand for is the question. Where is the child care and womens agenda now. We all need to add our voices to the important issues of the day. As for Palin, please look at what her visiting minister has to say. I was a teen parent, now 65 and I don't think its ok for her to choose wheter my daughter gets a morning after pill should she be raped. I do love that she is a wonder woman though. I didn't want to leave my children to work, but I had to and child care was only one of the support services i needed then and didn't have. Lets work for peace and justice for all. Girls and boys. Gays too. People of color too. I just found this site and have never done this before, but its time to speak out. I didn’t support Hillary although I think she is brilliant, capable and lightyears better than most, but not Obama. I felt from the beginning that he did represent change and\ that welfare reform under the Clinton’s was just one example of how a more DLC leaning party would affect lower income women. I feel the Arkansas connections, Tyson, Walmart, (Hillary was on the Board) and many other factors made me leary of her. I was a Kucinich fan mostly, but thought he could never win. I wanted to break up the Wall Street, corporate democrats. As for the women in leadership, they failed to stop the war, or speak against it or ask questions. I am in Nancy Pelosi’s district and feel let down by both Dianne and Nancy. It may be harder for them as women, but they haven’t proven to me that they were any different than the men in power. Sorry. Can transexuals quality as women and therby be assured female support? What do we stand for is the question. Where is the child care and womens agenda now. We all need to add our voices to the important issues of the day. As for Palin, please look at what her visiting minister has to say. I was a teen parent, now 65 and I don’t think its ok for her to choose wheter my daughter gets a morning after pill should she be raped. I do love that she is a wonder woman though. I didn’t want to leave my children to work, but I had to and child care was only one of the support services i needed then and didn’t have. Lets work for peace and justice for all. Girls and boys. Gays too.
People of color too.

]]> By: Dawn C http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/23/the-30-percent-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-736 Dawn C Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:40:19 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=636#comment-736 donna darko, Kali, You're absolutely right, of course. And as someone said on another site—it's not like we haven't been choosing candidates on the basis of their gender for hundreds of years. donna darko, Kali,

You’re absolutely right, of course. And as someone said on another site—it’s not like we haven’t been choosing candidates on the basis of their gender for hundreds of years.

]]> By: lisa http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/23/the-30-percent-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-735 lisa Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:14:16 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=636#comment-735 Feminism isn't about abortion alone or even primarily. Feminism isn’t about abortion alone or even primarily.

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