Comments on: Losing the battle, and maybe the war http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/13/losing-the-battle-and-maybe-the-war/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:34:32 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Maura http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/13/losing-the-battle-and-maybe-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-535 Maura Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:47:06 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=347#comment-535 Stay strong, Maggie! I was with some friends last night who actually attend workshops where they are taught how to write letters to the editors of newspapers protesting Sarah Palin!!! I asked them "and are you actually paying for this?". Unbelievable. But when I asked them why they liked Obama they just gushed that he was "so well spoken", so "inspirational", so "cool" - but they couldn't really mention any reason why, as women, we should support him. And the funniest bit was the issues they had with Sarah ("she's religious!", she bans books!", "inexperienced", "talks too much") were either rumors spread by the MSM or the exact problem I have with Obama. They could not, however, see the irony. I had to feed them more martini's before they exploded. I hate it when women prove men's old joke about being their own worst enemy........ Stay strong, Maggie! I was with some friends last night who actually attend workshops where they are taught how to write letters to the editors of newspapers protesting Sarah Palin!!! I asked them “and are you actually paying for this?”. Unbelievable. But when I asked them why they liked Obama they just gushed that he was “so well spoken”, so “inspirational”, so “cool” – but they couldn’t really mention any reason why, as women, we should support him. And the funniest bit was the issues they had with Sarah (”she’s religious!”, she bans books!”, “inexperienced”, “talks too much”) were either rumors spread by the MSM or the exact problem I have with Obama. They could not, however, see the irony. I had to feed them more martini’s before they exploded.

I hate it when women prove men’s old joke about being their own worst enemy……..

]]> By: maggie http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/13/losing-the-battle-and-maybe-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-474 maggie Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:17:09 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=347#comment-474 I hear Obama supporters yelling "racism" at every turn -- yet not once, did I hear anyone tell them to stop whining. Need I say more -- Yet, the stop whining meme keeps coming from other women This is what enrages me. Just as so many women are demeaning Sarah Palin in he most vicious ways. This is happening even among my friends -- I'm about to pull my hair out, when they say "oh you don't want HER......" I hear Obama supporters yelling “racism” at every turn — yet not once, did I hear anyone tell them to stop whining. Need I say more — Yet, the stop whining meme keeps coming from other women This is what enrages me. Just as so many women are demeaning Sarah Palin in he most vicious ways. This is happening even among my friends — I’m about to pull my hair out, when they say “oh you don’t want HER……”

]]> By: Anna Belle http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/13/losing-the-battle-and-maybe-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-299 Anna Belle Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:08:38 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=347#comment-299 Bravo! What a fantastic post. I agree that modern feminism lacks an infrastructure, and that the reason for success against racism is that the civil rights movement was successful in building that infrastructure. It's not like women didn't try, though. I spend a fair amount of my time on my blog trying to figure out exactly what went wrong. At a certain point in the early 70s, feminism was ascending while civil rights had peaked, but was still a strong movement. Something more than backlash happened there. It is related to education, with it's months-long focus in every grade on black history, and the lack of any history on women. It also has to do with abortion and the ERA. There are many elements to the failure of the 2nd wave, but it's been really difficult to piece it all together from the perspective of a now 37 year old woman, born in 1971, just as that ascension was happening. Bravo! What a fantastic post. I agree that modern feminism lacks an infrastructure, and that the reason for success against racism is that the civil rights movement was successful in building that infrastructure.

It’s not like women didn’t try, though. I spend a fair amount of my time on my blog trying to figure out exactly what went wrong. At a certain point in the early 70s, feminism was ascending while civil rights had peaked, but was still a strong movement. Something more than backlash happened there. It is related to education, with it’s months-long focus in every grade on black history, and the lack of any history on women. It also has to do with abortion and the ERA. There are many elements to the failure of the 2nd wave, but it’s been really difficult to piece it all together from the perspective of a now 37 year old woman, born in 1971, just as that ascension was happening.

]]> By: Dawn C http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/13/losing-the-battle-and-maybe-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-285 Dawn C Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:58:04 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=347#comment-285 <i>Lighten up. Get over it. Quit whining. </i> The more I hear that, the more savage I become. I do not whine. I bellow. I shriek. I menace. Whining's for babies. I have become a beast. Lighten up. Get over it. Quit whining.

The more I hear that, the more savage I become. I do not whine. I bellow. I shriek. I menace. Whining’s for babies. I have become a beast.

]]> By: fieldingbandolier http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/13/losing-the-battle-and-maybe-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-255 fieldingbandolier Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:12:31 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=347#comment-255 I agree. It seems the most honest political commentary available these days is found in comedy programming (The Daily Show, etc.). The SNL sketch featuring the press conference with Palin and Clinton nailed the issues. It's here: http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/09/saturday-night.html I agree. It seems the most honest political commentary available these days is found in comedy programming (The Daily Show, etc.). The SNL sketch featuring the press conference with Palin and Clinton nailed the issues. It’s here:
http://featuresblogs.chicagotr.....night.html

]]> By: Kristina Fay http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/13/losing-the-battle-and-maybe-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-227 Kristina Fay Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:03:14 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=347#comment-227 You are so right. If we don't stick together, we will as women get nowhere in this country. You are so right.

If we don’t stick together, we will as women get nowhere in this country.

]]> By: ida http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/13/losing-the-battle-and-maybe-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-226 ida Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:00:18 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=347#comment-226 MSM made fun of Hilary's national security experience and now Sarah Palin's experience. What about Obama's national security experience? He is for the number 1 spot, the Presidency! Where is the fairness here? Do they think that women can't do the job? When Margaret Thatcher became leader of the Tories in 1975, she hadn't had much experience, and incidentally, NO foreign policy experience, but Thatcher was a great minister. Illinois Democratic governor and Barack Obama supporter Rod Blagojevich is taking his own party to task for belittling Sarah Palin's experience. Blagojevich said on a Chicago radio station Thursday, "Governors every day have to make decisions for better or for worse. That's part of the job. It's an executive position... I think it's a tactical mistake for the Democrats to question Governor Palin's experience when she's been governor of a state." Blagojevich added that criticizing the size of Governor Palin's electorate is also a mistake. "I don't think the size of the state is relevant. It's the kinds of decisions you have to make as governor," he said. MSM made fun of Hilary’s national security experience and now Sarah Palin’s experience. What about Obama’s national security experience? He is for the number 1 spot, the Presidency! Where is the fairness here? Do they think that women can’t do the job?

When Margaret Thatcher became leader of the Tories in 1975, she hadn’t had much experience, and incidentally, NO foreign policy experience, but Thatcher was a great minister.

Illinois Democratic governor and Barack Obama supporter Rod Blagojevich is taking his own party to task for belittling Sarah Palin’s experience. Blagojevich said on a Chicago radio station Thursday, “Governors every day have to make decisions for better or for worse. That’s part of the job. It’s an executive position… I think it’s a tactical mistake for the Democrats to question Governor Palin’s experience when she’s been governor of a state.”

Blagojevich added that criticizing the size of Governor Palin’s electorate is also a mistake. “I don’t think the size of the state is relevant. It’s the kinds of decisions you have to make as governor,” he said.

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